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One weakness of this analysis is that it failed to identify all the warring parties. It is now being said out loud by the West that the Ukraine is their proxy against Russia, their being on record that the goal was to achieve the strategic defeat of Russia. In this sense, the analysis failed by assuming that the Ukraine has full agency to decide solely on its own interests, disregarding the interests of those powers whose proxy it is and how they matter to Russia.

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"Probably over 200,000 Russian and Ukrainian soldiers have been killed;"

Seriously? So how many Ukrainians have been called up over the past 3 years to add to maybe 700k to start. They send trainee officers, under used support from the airforce and even Engineers to the front line. And women.

Frankly any estimate of under 500k Ukrainians is just silly. About 1 million IMO. In line with Russian estimates of those killed or severely wounded (often 2500 a day, now just 1500 a day as Ukraine just can't fill those gaps and is losing ground fast).

Cemetaries, survival rates of wounded, 5 vs 26 weeks of training (any medical training at all), being shelled at a rate of 10:1, average age over 40 vs average age under 30, and the disappearance of about 2 million troops from the Ukrainian army. Russia has withdrawn at the first sight of bad odds and never lost a battle actually fought. A kill rate of 10:1 is exactly what should be expected.

"Even if it is clear to an objective outside observer that one side has lost or that neither side is capable of absolute victory, those involved in the fighting may not view things the same way or may be unwilling to act on the knowledge. "

Well it is clear that Ukraine lost, and has been clear for over 2 years. And i bet there isn't a fighting Ukrainian left who doesn't know that very well. But decisions seem to be made, and bribes made from washington, not the frontlines. Of course western media and "experts" who quite like their jobs are complicit in the dishonesty and deaths for the last three quarters of a million Ukrainians.

"The analysis above suggests that third-party state leaders who are seeking to end a war being fought by other states have two options:"

Having deeply corrupted Zelensky and the Kiev Leadership, it really is the third-party state leaders who decide. [We all know the states, Fxxx knows who the leaders are, but deep down somebody is calling the shots - conveniently anonymously.]

"But what are security guarantees for Ukraine are perceived as security threats by Russia."

well quite. You understate the point on Nato entry - Nato entry or just protection is a GUARANTEE OF INSECURITY for Ukraine. That is the most important thing for the west to accept (of course domestic politics make that difficult). What Russia has demanded from the start is that the neighbour of a Super Power must act like a responsible neighbour, and not simply invite a rival SuperPower from across the Atlantic into its garden.

"Arguably, it was Russian fears of the movement of Ukraine into the NATO camp, of apparent Ukrainian hostility, and of an escalation of the war in eastern Ukraine into a wider conflict involving Western powers, that motivated Russia’s leaders into launching a preventive war against Ukraine. "

Too tamely put. It was the attack on Donbas that Zelensky loudly and repeatedly promised during 2021 which was pre-empted. Indeed the CIA predicted Russian invasion was not prepared for by Ukraine - there was no defence prepared any but outside Donbas where Ukrainian troops were massed. So the CIA predictions were clearly meant to precede a false flag attack claimed to be by LPR/DPR on Ukraine to justify a Ukrainian attack on Donbas. {Hence the distraction with far too few troops to capture Kharkov, let alone Kiev, but which lead to Ukraine withdrawals from Donbas and the opportunity to get enough Russian artillery into position to outgun Ukraine there.

Not making this point forcefully implicitly accepts the nonsense that Russia has always wanted to go all the way to Berlin again.

I see non-Russian Ukraine going the way of Syria (or Libya) rapidly. A pit of chaos at the end of the Silk Road preventing trade between Russia or China with Europe.

Which of course was always the goal of many controlling the US leadership.

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